I am been at My local Board of Election as citizen oversight not representing any political party for three elections now and been to nearly every Board of Election meetings for over three years. Two of the Three elections had a Edison Research rep there and they didn’t get any special treatment. They got the same print out as I as board uploaded the precinct results up to the SOS office.
One of the three Edison Research was not at was August 8,2023. What I witnessed then was unbelievable to my eyes. Needless to say after learning how much I knew about our Election I was not allowed back into the process room that held the two high speed scanners for mail in ballots and provisional.
I can not stress how important to be going to your Board of Election meetings GET INVOLVED.
It’s is very concerning as to what I have learned and seen.
I was a poll watcher in 2024. In Volusia County, FL, we effectively stopped a lot of shenanigans by the simple expedient of putting the drop boxes INDOORS during regular business hours, where trained people could monitor them. No midnite outdoor dumps by 2000 mules. Not every county in FL followed that example, especially Miami-Dade and Broward, big blue strongholds, but I'm convinced it made a difference.
PBCo Drive -by Voting drop boxes were always outside! The SOE employees took ballots inside the Tabulation Center, chain of custody stopped at the door, when they said to Vote Watchers the office is closed! WASTE FRAUD &Abuse in Palm Beach County !
Not sure how relevant this information maybe but It was discovered with Miami County Ohio 2020, 2022 and 2024 Election Administration Plan a Websites links is/are associated with the USPS. ( www.electionmail.org)
Many organizations tied into the usps and handling the paper mail ballots.
Within this web link I discovered ties to
Via partisan Policy Center
Center for Civic Design
Federal Voting Assistance
National Association of Presort
Election Center
Democracy Works
Democracy Fund
National Vote at home
It’s amazing what you find out and if you have the know how to do a bit of research and connect the dots.
Way too many NGO's and Org's involved in our elections. All and more known of and very relevant information. Mike's causeofamerica.org reported on such things.
Jovan- not sure if your comments were meant for me or LauraB. The weblink www.electionmail.org is we’re you can find the list of NGO associated with USPS. This link has been in every Election Administration Plan from 2020-2024. Also on radar is Ohio Association of Election Officials ( Arron Ockerman) He is a registered lobbies and was affiliated with Bipartisan Policy Center.
I am aware that Ohio had many ballot printing vendor issues across the state of Ohio with Election IQ being the vendor that seemed to cause the biggest problem. Election IQ also provided ballots to Pennsylvania. Election IQ was contracted to print all of the Election Day ballots 65,000
And print/mail out absentee ballots from October 8-21 in Miami County. The county was printing all of the Early in person ballots🧐and and was to handle mail ballot from October 21 until cut off date.
How do I know this information? I am boots on the ground.
If you have a defective product that a customer has returned or complained about, How are you going to investigate the problem while just sitting behind a desk. You have to go to the spot and investigate.
Please even if you aren’t very knowledgeable on Election, Go to you BOE meetings. You can pickup/learn so much information by side conversations when you have ears to hear and eyes to see.
I just looked again and Emerald’s thread ends with #67, but all of that stuff is background. She still hasn’t stated, as far as I can see, what she thinks occurred in 2024. And I’m not the only one, I see numerous people asking her about that.
Do I think it’s possible to remotely manipulate votes via the software in the machines? Yes, but as you’ve pointed out a gajillion times, it’s neither here nor there (for numerous reasons), the only way to prove the steal is with the paper/paper trail.
Jovan, the crime was lying about them not being connected to the Internet, when laws instruct that creates a security threat, therefore not allowed – but covered up by CISA & the like to keep machines our voting method. That mantra was meant to keep the brainwashed in tow and everyone who wasn’t knew that, but, they messed up changing up their lies to “most secure elections ever”. The EAC & all the other agencies you speak of are the cons. Not one of them align – intentionally IMO. You are incorrect that the air got sucked out of the room by focusing on machines – most of the cases included other issues, so lawfare occurred plain and simple. And all the ballot issues, the voter rolls, illegals registered to vote, mail-in ballots (USPS) among many other things were covered also by Mike, Emerald and all including the 300k on the ground that volunteered to work with the people you are damning for getting nothing done. State by state great strides were made AND you are dismissing a lot of hard work by many of those who contributed – just like the corrupt judges did. Mike, Emerald, and all only reported what they received from people who worked their elections or voters who reported many different anomalies to them. Yes every state is different, so in Federal elections you have both federal and state laws to abide by. Tina Peter’s case showed us how that can overlap, but some State’s think they override by made up fiat rules, not legislated. Yeah bone to pick with you about not blaming who should have been there also.
If you had been on the journey with all of us, you wouldn’t be 2nd guessing what Emerald posted (you say telegraph, but shows X) in this thread. Most know ALL the intermediary stuff, so to speak. All the history is known, the information you are providing was all known. Difference is it was released by these people a long time ago and you are just now addressing it in some sort of attack mode. WHY? Shouldn’t we all be working together to address ALL the issues?
I just don’t see where this is helping address the overall issues we must address to have free and fair elections. The machines are a part of it – period. It was proven and they moved to additional ways with the advent of Covid & mail in ballots for EVERYONE, but that doesn’t mean the machines weren’t used or attempted to be used and won’t again. As one mentioned Patrick Bryne was in Serbia (that alone was years long investigation) during the 2024 election to ensure what happened in 2020 would not in 2024. Yes, the down ballots were still affected – because the States (mostly SOS) had control of the ballot counts by the machines (YES-by the machines) – no one is hand counting Jovan. But federal is another gamit. It’s the software in the machines, with coders at the connection points Jovan. Paper audits were NOT swayed from, they were done in AZ and many other places, so don’t tell your listeners that didn’t happen or that everything the 300k were doing focused on the machines ONLY. It was far more extensive than that and you know it! But you are inserting your opinion in parts of this thread that don’t have anything to do with the facts presented in it. You do know what assuming means right?
If you seriously think there is no way the CIA is controlling the federal elections, when they did in many countries prior, then you should take a step back from getting into this with The People. And I call BS on the fact the machines are not changing votes in real time – people saw it with their own eyes on the touchscreen boxes!!! Lol, made to look like it came out of China – good grief China took over VZ after we thwarted their election, so let’s just think that through. It’s pretty clear cut to me that sounded like a “China not bad” statement, when you know darn well the Obama & Biden regimes allowed China to take over a lot we shouldn’t have allowed – SO you’re painting a picture that ALL who worked this and/or followed it didn’t know this was an inside job…c’mon man that’s been known for decades. Not sure who you think you are talking to, but it’s not the millions who put the peddle to the metal. I’m stopping at your comments at Emerald’s 18th post…already writing a book, but will listen further and may reply further if allowed.
We are tired of the lies and fighting by people who have supposedly “thought this through”, but didn’t do ALL the ground work, just decided to put their 2 cents in. Your work would be much more appreciated if you would accept others as part of the BIGGER whole picture as all other have. Otherwise, we wonder why you are doing this type of hit piece and sometimes wonder who you are protecting and why. Further, what do you hope to accomplish other than further division in election reform efforts? You asked for input, I would appreciate a reply as well.
Jovan – sorry for the delay, but I had a busy Saturday. Wow that was a lot of reply hmmm. Answers to your questions starting with the first (bottom up):
1st & 2nd: I didn’t say YOU stopped at 18th post, I said “I’m stopping at your comments at Emerald’s 18th post…already writing a book, but will listen further and may reply further if allowed.” I haven’t had a chance to listen further yet, so not replying further at this point.
3rd: Why is it laughable that “SO you’re painting a picture that ALL who worked this and/or followed it didn’t know this was an inside job…c’mon man that’s been known for decades.” You’re selling a lot of people short by thinking we hadn’t figured this out a long time ago. You are not the only person who has pointed that out. I’ve been hearing it for at least 20 years, since machines came into the picture. Know a guy named Clinton Curtis who testified before the U.S. House of Representatives 12/13/2004? Can’t imagine you don’t, but just in case… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEzY2tnwExs - CIA latched onto this (if they weren’t involved already), it was used abroad & expanded, election agencies created for cover & used new and improved here. Lots made a bunch of money. Pretty sure DOGE will find it 😊. I have seen your work – AKA diversion. Saw your coverage of the cyber symposium, etc. THAT is another subject - deeper than you know (or maybe you do IDK, but that set the trend for you
).
4th: If you don’t know how down ballot can be affected when President, Senators, House Reps aren’t & vice versa you definitely haven’t done your homework. The numbers don’t add up period. People did not vote for Trump and not vote for Republican’s down ticket AND people paid a lot of attention to state & local judges this last time around also. A blue state doesn’t turn red only for President, but completely blue in larger numbers for the rest of the ballot. Luckily there were some states that had changed their elections laws enough that Republicans took the House & Senate also – that is where the rubber met the road on turn out, but not necessarily that democrats didn’t turn out. I heard everywhere “Vote Blue”. There were more red votes that overcame their plan. Plain & simple they couldn’t pull a PA in every State they needed this time. However, there are some investigations into down ballot more votes than voters. Stay tuned.
5th: Good grief – “They ARE NOT connected to the Internet - the machines - they are connected to the LOCAL LAN and that is what is connected to the Internet. Thats why I teach words matter.” Yeah you just said they ARE NOT, but then are connected to the Internet – sheez. Local LAN can be infiltrated SMH…one great big WEB. Mincing words is more like it. Ever heard of Ericsson, the big daddy that gets election results live in real time to news networks? No? Gee let me enlighten you to the BIG web… https://acrobat.adobe.com/id/urn:aaid:sc:VA6C2:6fbf89f4-a3bc-498f-b44c-64cd65816ca6/?x_api_client_id=anonymous_home&x_api_client_location=signin
And that’s only one report of many, many, MANY. Yeah no one has been working on this but you lol.
6th: Like I said I didn’t listen past when you brought up Emerald’s 18th point, so I’m not sure you got to the end. She explains (in short form) how the information from the 2020 election was used to ensure 2024 wasn’t stolen. And all the info she gave led to understanding “who, what, how- stopped the steal in 2024". I didn’t miss your whole point – you MISSED HER WHOLE POINT(s) – IMO. But I digress…that last link may help some, but as far as players you would have had to follow ALL the work and info that has been provided over the last 4 years.
7th: I shouldn’t even have to say this…The hit is your entire piece…your header is “I’m Calling Out Mike, Emerald, Frankspeech and Others for Total Misinformation!”. That header alone suggests “I’m going to tell you everything Mike, Emerald, Frankspeech etc. is ALL Misinformation”. That’s not a hit piece? On all the work, let alone nothing you followed up on, which is evidenced by you having to even ask me. And what I meant by division in election reform is you are saying only your work is notable in election reform and Mike’s and all associated, 300k, his platform, followers, etc. are bogus. I only suggested it was divisive, but it’s very telling that you took great exception to that. I didn’t say you “STOPPED SUCH” – stop mincing my words. Then you said, “in fact I stated NOTHING was fixed and it is a 100% fact that NOTHING WAS FIXED.” I have no idea what you mean by adding that to this part of my comment, but I’m sure it means something to you. SMH – what does that mean? If you’re trying to say the elections aren’t fixed LOL that’s hilarious!!
8th: You left out a lot on this one. To back that up, later I stated “And I call BS on the fact the machines are not changing votes in real time – people saw it with their own eyes on the touchscreen boxes!!! So there you go again mincing my words.
9th: Are you following Patrick Bryne? Just wondering. The ties are Serbia, VZ (Cuba) & China. I’ll give you - You don’t know what you don’t know, but for some reason I think you do. He wasn’t in the states during the elections 😉.
10th: Do a live with you? No. I know how you do those and where you go with them after. I just replied here to inform people there’s more to this than just your perspective, that you are not giving full representation of all the work that covers everything (not just the machines), that you couldn’t begin to cover it all as you’ve proven by your questions, and that alone should give people pause as to your agenda regarding this stack piece. You’ve hurt Mike enough, if possible I’m not going to let you do that to anyone else, including myself. That’s not a “refusal” that’s a stop the propaganda! Hundreds are getting the truth out on all election fronts Jovan. And this administration will be also.
My final point is it would do you well to stop chastising people – it just doesn’t look good on you and there will be an end to the means at some point. There was absolutely no reason for this stack if you are for election reform in any way.
Patrick was NOT in Serbia for a year investigating TOTAL BS """"As one mentioned Patrick Bryne was in Serbia (that alone was years long investigation) during the 2024 election to ensure what happened in 2020 would not in 2024.""""
Please educate me on HOW the machines changed the votes """The machines are a part of it – period. It was proven and they moved to additional ways with the advent of Covid & mail in ballots for EVERYONE, but that doesn’t mean the machines weren’t used or attempted to be used and won’t again"""
The machines definitely swayed the election in 2020! Several eyewitness accounts etc. Your push to counter this argument is troubling to me! I pray you’re not just setting up a straw man to sell a book or crest “negative news” to get more clicks. It won’t work with your followers. Contrary to your perception, you will like lose followers. Your own arguments don’t even make sense. You’re strictly bashing those who are on the MAGA side! Strife is a biblically negative characteristic. Renounce your pride and change your ways.
Art, thank you for your reply. I was hoping Jovan would understand this is only one part of the issue with this kind of stack. This is not the time to disregard or attack fellow election reformists, bash them just to make your way the only way if you are legitimately for reform. We're at a point where things are getting done and I just don't get why anyone would try to start an internal war, but suppose some like Jovan still believe we can be propagandized without considering how many people became involved enough to know the difference. I'm praying he repents also.
You said "Otherwise, we wonder why you are doing this type of hit piece and sometimes wonder who you are protecting and why. Further, what do you hope to accomplish other than further division in election reform efforts? ""' (1) Give me the HIT in this HIT piece as you see it? (2) Division in election reform efforts? What in my sharing STOPPED SUCH, in fact I stated NOTHING was fixed and it is a 100% fact that NOTHING WAS FIXED.
OK AND I think you missed my entire point so let me say it again which I said on the audio. MY ONLY POINT "She said in 2024 'a stop the steal" was executed" and she went back to 2020 to prove it. All she did was list facts we all know, but at NO POINT did she unpack "who, what, how- stopped the steal in 2024" YOU MISSED MY WHOLE POINT!
They ARE NOT connected to the Internet - the machines - they are connected to the LOCAL LAN and that is what is connected to the Internet. Thats why I teach words matter. I have shown "in their own documentation" it instructs the county to connect to LAN IF they want to see via remote. AND the horrible part is "its not illegal to connect to the net"! Bummer I know
For this to even be presented this way, you must think that the Federal part of the ballot is counted different and apart from the state part? really - SHOW ME THAT! """Yes, the down ballots were still affected – because the States (mostly SOS) had control of the ballot counts by the machines (YES-by the machines) – no one is hand counting Jovan."""
Where did you get this diddy? Or why would you even say this? You dont really watch my work do you? This bit is laughable "SO you’re painting a picture that ALL who worked this and/or followed it didn’t know this was an inside job…c’mon man that’s been known for decades. ""
Thank you for your work Jovan- I have no doubt the enemy from within are stealing our elections. We fix nothing until we ensure our voices are actually heard at the ballot box.
Do I understand you correctly? I hope you know where Patrick Byrne fits into the picture. It is him that is spreading the rumor that white hats asserted their power over computers in Serbia on our election night at which sat black hat hackers with intent to manipulate election computers. The white hats STOPPED the BLACK HATS, and if they had NOT done so, the election would have been stolen. Patrick Byrne says this in a number of interviews that can only be found on Rumble. We en masse believe him over anyone who would say otherwise. You really shouldn't be one of those who say otherwise.
Kenneth, I have my own views and such and I know what Patrick promotes and why he states it and I am saying - the votes have to be backed by paper and it is the paper which is the ONLY felony, and the machines are not a felony. Why? read it here https://www.eac.gov/voting-equipment/voluntary-voting-system-guidelines Many want people to focus on "the machines" BUT they have ZERO enforcement since the guidelines are voluntary. So riddle me this - "they stopped the vote taking from TRUMP so he could win, but they ignored the WHOLE down ticket and let it be taken over?" Yeah right. Sorry don't buy it. Now, I am my OWN MAN and thought and if I see it wrong based on my knowledge set then WHY O WHY would I stay silent. So, for you again - please do answer this: "they stopped the vote taking from TRUMP so he could win, but they ignored the WHOLE down ticket and let it be taken over?"
Jovan, As a mentalist, you are world class, I am not. I am just glad now to know that you are aware of Patrick so as to take into account what he is contributing to the knowledge base. I want to give only encouragement to you. Please know I am fully supportive of anyone like you who rises up to oppose and expose election corruption. To do so takes courage and deserves respect.
Also thought it was not right that Audit logs for highspeed scanners used for mail ballots were found missing as they were reported to be missing in 2004. Miami County Ohio.
I see so much more than a piece of paper when I look at a ballot. I seen a plane, Coordinates and so much more. I am aware of at least twice of local BOE having issues with the timing marks.
November 2022- timing mark issues that resulted in a ballot remake policy being put into place. November 2024 -timing mark issue that only impacted the presidential race.
Aug 2023 - Seeing blank ballots when there was only one issue one the ballot struck me as odd.
Jovan, there is only one way to fix the election mess. By Constitutional Amendment, at the Federal Level, and the State Constitutions. There is time. I have said this for over a decade. Congress, and State Legislatures will NEVER do it. If they were going to do it, they would of done it by passing bills. Instead they passed ALL the Bills signed by Presidents, and Governors that created the Election mess we have now. Proof is in the cake they baked, called Sanctioned Election Fraud. You judge people by what they do, and what they do not do. That is what proves what they are.
I am been at My local Board of Election as citizen oversight not representing any political party for three elections now and been to nearly every Board of Election meetings for over three years. Two of the Three elections had a Edison Research rep there and they didn’t get any special treatment. They got the same print out as I as board uploaded the precinct results up to the SOS office.
One of the three Edison Research was not at was August 8,2023. What I witnessed then was unbelievable to my eyes. Needless to say after learning how much I knew about our Election I was not allowed back into the process room that held the two high speed scanners for mail in ballots and provisional.
I can not stress how important to be going to your Board of Election meetings GET INVOLVED.
It’s is very concerning as to what I have learned and seen.
I was a poll watcher in 2024. In Volusia County, FL, we effectively stopped a lot of shenanigans by the simple expedient of putting the drop boxes INDOORS during regular business hours, where trained people could monitor them. No midnite outdoor dumps by 2000 mules. Not every county in FL followed that example, especially Miami-Dade and Broward, big blue strongholds, but I'm convinced it made a difference.
PBCo Drive -by Voting drop boxes were always outside! The SOE employees took ballots inside the Tabulation Center, chain of custody stopped at the door, when they said to Vote Watchers the office is closed! WASTE FRAUD &Abuse in Palm Beach County !
Not sure how relevant this information maybe but It was discovered with Miami County Ohio 2020, 2022 and 2024 Election Administration Plan a Websites links is/are associated with the USPS. ( www.electionmail.org)
Many organizations tied into the usps and handling the paper mail ballots.
Within this web link I discovered ties to
Via partisan Policy Center
Center for Civic Design
Federal Voting Assistance
National Association of Presort
Election Center
Democracy Works
Democracy Fund
National Vote at home
It’s amazing what you find out and if you have the know how to do a bit of research and connect the dots.
Way too many NGO's and Org's involved in our elections. All and more known of and very relevant information. Mike's causeofamerica.org reported on such things.
Jovan- not sure if your comments were meant for me or LauraB. The weblink www.electionmail.org is we’re you can find the list of NGO associated with USPS. This link has been in every Election Administration Plan from 2020-2024. Also on radar is Ohio Association of Election Officials ( Arron Ockerman) He is a registered lobbies and was affiliated with Bipartisan Policy Center.
send links for this please
I am aware that Ohio had many ballot printing vendor issues across the state of Ohio with Election IQ being the vendor that seemed to cause the biggest problem. Election IQ also provided ballots to Pennsylvania. Election IQ was contracted to print all of the Election Day ballots 65,000
And print/mail out absentee ballots from October 8-21 in Miami County. The county was printing all of the Early in person ballots🧐and and was to handle mail ballot from October 21 until cut off date.
How do I know this information? I am boots on the ground.
If you have a defective product that a customer has returned or complained about, How are you going to investigate the problem while just sitting behind a desk. You have to go to the spot and investigate.
Please even if you aren’t very knowledgeable on Election, Go to you BOE meetings. You can pickup/learn so much information by side conversations when you have ears to hear and eyes to see.
I just looked again and Emerald’s thread ends with #67, but all of that stuff is background. She still hasn’t stated, as far as I can see, what she thinks occurred in 2024. And I’m not the only one, I see numerous people asking her about that.
Do I think it’s possible to remotely manipulate votes via the software in the machines? Yes, but as you’ve pointed out a gajillion times, it’s neither here nor there (for numerous reasons), the only way to prove the steal is with the paper/paper trail.
Thank you for all you’re doing!!
Jovan, the crime was lying about them not being connected to the Internet, when laws instruct that creates a security threat, therefore not allowed – but covered up by CISA & the like to keep machines our voting method. That mantra was meant to keep the brainwashed in tow and everyone who wasn’t knew that, but, they messed up changing up their lies to “most secure elections ever”. The EAC & all the other agencies you speak of are the cons. Not one of them align – intentionally IMO. You are incorrect that the air got sucked out of the room by focusing on machines – most of the cases included other issues, so lawfare occurred plain and simple. And all the ballot issues, the voter rolls, illegals registered to vote, mail-in ballots (USPS) among many other things were covered also by Mike, Emerald and all including the 300k on the ground that volunteered to work with the people you are damning for getting nothing done. State by state great strides were made AND you are dismissing a lot of hard work by many of those who contributed – just like the corrupt judges did. Mike, Emerald, and all only reported what they received from people who worked their elections or voters who reported many different anomalies to them. Yes every state is different, so in Federal elections you have both federal and state laws to abide by. Tina Peter’s case showed us how that can overlap, but some State’s think they override by made up fiat rules, not legislated. Yeah bone to pick with you about not blaming who should have been there also.
If you had been on the journey with all of us, you wouldn’t be 2nd guessing what Emerald posted (you say telegraph, but shows X) in this thread. Most know ALL the intermediary stuff, so to speak. All the history is known, the information you are providing was all known. Difference is it was released by these people a long time ago and you are just now addressing it in some sort of attack mode. WHY? Shouldn’t we all be working together to address ALL the issues?
I just don’t see where this is helping address the overall issues we must address to have free and fair elections. The machines are a part of it – period. It was proven and they moved to additional ways with the advent of Covid & mail in ballots for EVERYONE, but that doesn’t mean the machines weren’t used or attempted to be used and won’t again. As one mentioned Patrick Bryne was in Serbia (that alone was years long investigation) during the 2024 election to ensure what happened in 2020 would not in 2024. Yes, the down ballots were still affected – because the States (mostly SOS) had control of the ballot counts by the machines (YES-by the machines) – no one is hand counting Jovan. But federal is another gamit. It’s the software in the machines, with coders at the connection points Jovan. Paper audits were NOT swayed from, they were done in AZ and many other places, so don’t tell your listeners that didn’t happen or that everything the 300k were doing focused on the machines ONLY. It was far more extensive than that and you know it! But you are inserting your opinion in parts of this thread that don’t have anything to do with the facts presented in it. You do know what assuming means right?
If you seriously think there is no way the CIA is controlling the federal elections, when they did in many countries prior, then you should take a step back from getting into this with The People. And I call BS on the fact the machines are not changing votes in real time – people saw it with their own eyes on the touchscreen boxes!!! Lol, made to look like it came out of China – good grief China took over VZ after we thwarted their election, so let’s just think that through. It’s pretty clear cut to me that sounded like a “China not bad” statement, when you know darn well the Obama & Biden regimes allowed China to take over a lot we shouldn’t have allowed – SO you’re painting a picture that ALL who worked this and/or followed it didn’t know this was an inside job…c’mon man that’s been known for decades. Not sure who you think you are talking to, but it’s not the millions who put the peddle to the metal. I’m stopping at your comments at Emerald’s 18th post…already writing a book, but will listen further and may reply further if allowed.
We are tired of the lies and fighting by people who have supposedly “thought this through”, but didn’t do ALL the ground work, just decided to put their 2 cents in. Your work would be much more appreciated if you would accept others as part of the BIGGER whole picture as all other have. Otherwise, we wonder why you are doing this type of hit piece and sometimes wonder who you are protecting and why. Further, what do you hope to accomplish other than further division in election reform efforts? You asked for input, I would appreciate a reply as well.
Even better Laura, lets do this LIVE and unpack it and help others learn? Can I get you to come on live and discuss?
Jovan – sorry for the delay, but I had a busy Saturday. Wow that was a lot of reply hmmm. Answers to your questions starting with the first (bottom up):
1st & 2nd: I didn’t say YOU stopped at 18th post, I said “I’m stopping at your comments at Emerald’s 18th post…already writing a book, but will listen further and may reply further if allowed.” I haven’t had a chance to listen further yet, so not replying further at this point.
3rd: Why is it laughable that “SO you’re painting a picture that ALL who worked this and/or followed it didn’t know this was an inside job…c’mon man that’s been known for decades.” You’re selling a lot of people short by thinking we hadn’t figured this out a long time ago. You are not the only person who has pointed that out. I’ve been hearing it for at least 20 years, since machines came into the picture. Know a guy named Clinton Curtis who testified before the U.S. House of Representatives 12/13/2004? Can’t imagine you don’t, but just in case… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEzY2tnwExs - CIA latched onto this (if they weren’t involved already), it was used abroad & expanded, election agencies created for cover & used new and improved here. Lots made a bunch of money. Pretty sure DOGE will find it 😊. I have seen your work – AKA diversion. Saw your coverage of the cyber symposium, etc. THAT is another subject - deeper than you know (or maybe you do IDK, but that set the trend for you
).
4th: If you don’t know how down ballot can be affected when President, Senators, House Reps aren’t & vice versa you definitely haven’t done your homework. The numbers don’t add up period. People did not vote for Trump and not vote for Republican’s down ticket AND people paid a lot of attention to state & local judges this last time around also. A blue state doesn’t turn red only for President, but completely blue in larger numbers for the rest of the ballot. Luckily there were some states that had changed their elections laws enough that Republicans took the House & Senate also – that is where the rubber met the road on turn out, but not necessarily that democrats didn’t turn out. I heard everywhere “Vote Blue”. There were more red votes that overcame their plan. Plain & simple they couldn’t pull a PA in every State they needed this time. However, there are some investigations into down ballot more votes than voters. Stay tuned.
5th: Good grief – “They ARE NOT connected to the Internet - the machines - they are connected to the LOCAL LAN and that is what is connected to the Internet. Thats why I teach words matter.” Yeah you just said they ARE NOT, but then are connected to the Internet – sheez. Local LAN can be infiltrated SMH…one great big WEB. Mincing words is more like it. Ever heard of Ericsson, the big daddy that gets election results live in real time to news networks? No? Gee let me enlighten you to the BIG web… https://acrobat.adobe.com/id/urn:aaid:sc:VA6C2:6fbf89f4-a3bc-498f-b44c-64cd65816ca6/?x_api_client_id=anonymous_home&x_api_client_location=signin
And that’s only one report of many, many, MANY. Yeah no one has been working on this but you lol.
6th: Like I said I didn’t listen past when you brought up Emerald’s 18th point, so I’m not sure you got to the end. She explains (in short form) how the information from the 2020 election was used to ensure 2024 wasn’t stolen. And all the info she gave led to understanding “who, what, how- stopped the steal in 2024". I didn’t miss your whole point – you MISSED HER WHOLE POINT(s) – IMO. But I digress…that last link may help some, but as far as players you would have had to follow ALL the work and info that has been provided over the last 4 years.
7th: I shouldn’t even have to say this…The hit is your entire piece…your header is “I’m Calling Out Mike, Emerald, Frankspeech and Others for Total Misinformation!”. That header alone suggests “I’m going to tell you everything Mike, Emerald, Frankspeech etc. is ALL Misinformation”. That’s not a hit piece? On all the work, let alone nothing you followed up on, which is evidenced by you having to even ask me. And what I meant by division in election reform is you are saying only your work is notable in election reform and Mike’s and all associated, 300k, his platform, followers, etc. are bogus. I only suggested it was divisive, but it’s very telling that you took great exception to that. I didn’t say you “STOPPED SUCH” – stop mincing my words. Then you said, “in fact I stated NOTHING was fixed and it is a 100% fact that NOTHING WAS FIXED.” I have no idea what you mean by adding that to this part of my comment, but I’m sure it means something to you. SMH – what does that mean? If you’re trying to say the elections aren’t fixed LOL that’s hilarious!!
8th: You left out a lot on this one. To back that up, later I stated “And I call BS on the fact the machines are not changing votes in real time – people saw it with their own eyes on the touchscreen boxes!!! So there you go again mincing my words.
9th: Are you following Patrick Bryne? Just wondering. The ties are Serbia, VZ (Cuba) & China. I’ll give you - You don’t know what you don’t know, but for some reason I think you do. He wasn’t in the states during the elections 😉.
10th: Do a live with you? No. I know how you do those and where you go with them after. I just replied here to inform people there’s more to this than just your perspective, that you are not giving full representation of all the work that covers everything (not just the machines), that you couldn’t begin to cover it all as you’ve proven by your questions, and that alone should give people pause as to your agenda regarding this stack piece. You’ve hurt Mike enough, if possible I’m not going to let you do that to anyone else, including myself. That’s not a “refusal” that’s a stop the propaganda! Hundreds are getting the truth out on all election fronts Jovan. And this administration will be also.
My final point is it would do you well to stop chastising people – it just doesn’t look good on you and there will be an end to the means at some point. There was absolutely no reason for this stack if you are for election reform in any way.
Patrick was NOT in Serbia for a year investigating TOTAL BS """"As one mentioned Patrick Bryne was in Serbia (that alone was years long investigation) during the 2024 election to ensure what happened in 2020 would not in 2024.""""
Please educate me on HOW the machines changed the votes """The machines are a part of it – period. It was proven and they moved to additional ways with the advent of Covid & mail in ballots for EVERYONE, but that doesn’t mean the machines weren’t used or attempted to be used and won’t again"""
The machines definitely swayed the election in 2020! Several eyewitness accounts etc. Your push to counter this argument is troubling to me! I pray you’re not just setting up a straw man to sell a book or crest “negative news” to get more clicks. It won’t work with your followers. Contrary to your perception, you will like lose followers. Your own arguments don’t even make sense. You’re strictly bashing those who are on the MAGA side! Strife is a biblically negative characteristic. Renounce your pride and change your ways.
Art, thank you for your reply. I was hoping Jovan would understand this is only one part of the issue with this kind of stack. This is not the time to disregard or attack fellow election reformists, bash them just to make your way the only way if you are legitimately for reform. We're at a point where things are getting done and I just don't get why anyone would try to start an internal war, but suppose some like Jovan still believe we can be propagandized without considering how many people became involved enough to know the difference. I'm praying he repents also.
You said "Otherwise, we wonder why you are doing this type of hit piece and sometimes wonder who you are protecting and why. Further, what do you hope to accomplish other than further division in election reform efforts? ""' (1) Give me the HIT in this HIT piece as you see it? (2) Division in election reform efforts? What in my sharing STOPPED SUCH, in fact I stated NOTHING was fixed and it is a 100% fact that NOTHING WAS FIXED.
OK AND I think you missed my entire point so let me say it again which I said on the audio. MY ONLY POINT "She said in 2024 'a stop the steal" was executed" and she went back to 2020 to prove it. All she did was list facts we all know, but at NO POINT did she unpack "who, what, how- stopped the steal in 2024" YOU MISSED MY WHOLE POINT!
They ARE NOT connected to the Internet - the machines - they are connected to the LOCAL LAN and that is what is connected to the Internet. Thats why I teach words matter. I have shown "in their own documentation" it instructs the county to connect to LAN IF they want to see via remote. AND the horrible part is "its not illegal to connect to the net"! Bummer I know
For this to even be presented this way, you must think that the Federal part of the ballot is counted different and apart from the state part? really - SHOW ME THAT! """Yes, the down ballots were still affected – because the States (mostly SOS) had control of the ballot counts by the machines (YES-by the machines) – no one is hand counting Jovan."""
Where did you get this diddy? Or why would you even say this? You dont really watch my work do you? This bit is laughable "SO you’re painting a picture that ALL who worked this and/or followed it didn’t know this was an inside job…c’mon man that’s been known for decades. ""
Ok looks like at the time I could see them numbered up to #67 and I went all the way until then, so why say Is topped at #18???
I didn't stop at number 18.... let me go back and look
Thank you for your work Jovan- I have no doubt the enemy from within are stealing our elections. We fix nothing until we ensure our voices are actually heard at the ballot box.
Do I understand you correctly? I hope you know where Patrick Byrne fits into the picture. It is him that is spreading the rumor that white hats asserted their power over computers in Serbia on our election night at which sat black hat hackers with intent to manipulate election computers. The white hats STOPPED the BLACK HATS, and if they had NOT done so, the election would have been stolen. Patrick Byrne says this in a number of interviews that can only be found on Rumble. We en masse believe him over anyone who would say otherwise. You really shouldn't be one of those who say otherwise.
Kenneth, I have my own views and such and I know what Patrick promotes and why he states it and I am saying - the votes have to be backed by paper and it is the paper which is the ONLY felony, and the machines are not a felony. Why? read it here https://www.eac.gov/voting-equipment/voluntary-voting-system-guidelines Many want people to focus on "the machines" BUT they have ZERO enforcement since the guidelines are voluntary. So riddle me this - "they stopped the vote taking from TRUMP so he could win, but they ignored the WHOLE down ticket and let it be taken over?" Yeah right. Sorry don't buy it. Now, I am my OWN MAN and thought and if I see it wrong based on my knowledge set then WHY O WHY would I stay silent. So, for you again - please do answer this: "they stopped the vote taking from TRUMP so he could win, but they ignored the WHOLE down ticket and let it be taken over?"
Jovan, As a mentalist, you are world class, I am not. I am just glad now to know that you are aware of Patrick so as to take into account what he is contributing to the knowledge base. I want to give only encouragement to you. Please know I am fully supportive of anyone like you who rises up to oppose and expose election corruption. To do so takes courage and deserves respect.
Also thought it was not right that Audit logs for highspeed scanners used for mail ballots were found missing as they were reported to be missing in 2004. Miami County Ohio.
I see so much more than a piece of paper when I look at a ballot. I seen a plane, Coordinates and so much more. I am aware of at least twice of local BOE having issues with the timing marks.
November 2022- timing mark issues that resulted in a ballot remake policy being put into place. November 2024 -timing mark issue that only impacted the presidential race.
Aug 2023 - Seeing blank ballots when there was only one issue one the ballot struck me as odd.
Jovan, there is only one way to fix the election mess. By Constitutional Amendment, at the Federal Level, and the State Constitutions. There is time. I have said this for over a decade. Congress, and State Legislatures will NEVER do it. If they were going to do it, they would of done it by passing bills. Instead they passed ALL the Bills signed by Presidents, and Governors that created the Election mess we have now. Proof is in the cake they baked, called Sanctioned Election Fraud. You judge people by what they do, and what they do not do. That is what proves what they are.